Old Souls
Posted on Jul 19th, 2007
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Enlightened.thinker
Enlightened.thinker
Just what defines a person to be an old soul?
I have enjoyed a discussion with two of my z-friends, both males chronologically about age 29. After discussing the idea that they resonate with people who are older and always have and it was mentioned they were old souls, it compelled me to see what kind of information I could find that might further the discussion.
I found this and it is from a man who professes to be a clairvoyant. Whether or not this resonates with your vision, I welcome you to add your thoughts to the topic of Old Souls. And this is just one example of the differences between younger and older souls.
This excerpt is from an article called: Soul Provider and the author is Joseph Ghabi.
“The higher the Soul becomes, the wiser it becomes. Such as, to be more open minded to different religions, ethnic groups, or skin colors, without any judgment, without any hate, without any prejudice. An old Soul does not judge another Soul because they drink, or use drugs, or even why they would be begging on the street. It is when we are ignorant in our understanding that we label people for the way they are. We are thinking we are better off than them, but in reality we are not. Just think about it! Instead of facing it and seeing why such a Soul is using drugs, or getting drunk, or whatever happen to that Soul that made him/ her to change course in their life we judge without having the facts. This is what will determine or distinguish an old Soul from a younger Soul. It is that wisdom and understanding of a higher outlook to life that allows you to see the bigger picture rather than looking at it from a smaller point of view or with a narrow mind.” (complete article can be found at: http://www.enotalone.com/article/2903.html)
So are older souls more open minded, tolerant and understanding? Are they less judgmental, wiser and more loving? It would appear so from Ghabi’s article. Isn’t this what we all aspire to? Are we not trying to be more compassionate, peaceful and kind in our outer worlds so we can be the change?
My own children appear (to me) to be Old Souls, as they seem to approach life from a different perspective than the generations from which they were born into. My nephew also seemed like an old soul to me as his first wife was ten years older than he was and his current wife six years older. He seems to resonate with older women.
Does this have any bearing on soul levels?
There is no intention of judgment here from a hierarchal point of view! It is simply my curiosity asking to be quenched! Doe this have less to do with physical age, and more of attaining a sense of discernment? The idea we all have to go through certain lessons in our lives and grow in the process is not necessarily based on chronological age, but soul growth?
It is not a tribal position (like Indigo or other terms that have been given to people in later generations of my own ) that I am questioning. It would appear that many chronologically younger people are here at zaadz because they are old souls. Souls interested in growing, in learning, knowing and sharing their adventures on their own paths.
I would be interested in knowing what others think and thank Chrysalis and Ricky for bringing this to my attention in a loving and inquiring way!
Blessings in abundance to all!!
Much love,
Aley
I have enjoyed a discussion with two of my z-friends, both males chronologically about age 29. After discussing the idea that they resonate with people who are older and always have and it was mentioned they were old souls, it compelled me to see what kind of information I could find that might further the discussion.
I found this and it is from a man who professes to be a clairvoyant. Whether or not this resonates with your vision, I welcome you to add your thoughts to the topic of Old Souls. And this is just one example of the differences between younger and older souls.
This excerpt is from an article called: Soul Provider and the author is Joseph Ghabi.
“The higher the Soul becomes, the wiser it becomes. Such as, to be more open minded to different religions, ethnic groups, or skin colors, without any judgment, without any hate, without any prejudice. An old Soul does not judge another Soul because they drink, or use drugs, or even why they would be begging on the street. It is when we are ignorant in our understanding that we label people for the way they are. We are thinking we are better off than them, but in reality we are not. Just think about it! Instead of facing it and seeing why such a Soul is using drugs, or getting drunk, or whatever happen to that Soul that made him/ her to change course in their life we judge without having the facts. This is what will determine or distinguish an old Soul from a younger Soul. It is that wisdom and understanding of a higher outlook to life that allows you to see the bigger picture rather than looking at it from a smaller point of view or with a narrow mind.” (complete article can be found at: http://www.enotalone.com/article/2903.html)
So are older souls more open minded, tolerant and understanding? Are they less judgmental, wiser and more loving? It would appear so from Ghabi’s article. Isn’t this what we all aspire to? Are we not trying to be more compassionate, peaceful and kind in our outer worlds so we can be the change?
My own children appear (to me) to be Old Souls, as they seem to approach life from a different perspective than the generations from which they were born into. My nephew also seemed like an old soul to me as his first wife was ten years older than he was and his current wife six years older. He seems to resonate with older women.
Does this have any bearing on soul levels?
There is no intention of judgment here from a hierarchal point of view! It is simply my curiosity asking to be quenched! Doe this have less to do with physical age, and more of attaining a sense of discernment? The idea we all have to go through certain lessons in our lives and grow in the process is not necessarily based on chronological age, but soul growth?
It is not a tribal position (like Indigo or other terms that have been given to people in later generations of my own ) that I am questioning. It would appear that many chronologically younger people are here at zaadz because they are old souls. Souls interested in growing, in learning, knowing and sharing their adventures on their own paths.
I would be interested in knowing what others think and thank Chrysalis and Ricky for bringing this to my attention in a loving and inquiring way!
Blessings in abundance to all!!
Much love,
Aley
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Here I am trying to catch up on all your recent posts—–QUITE a lot to think about, but will just thank you here for all you write!
I have most especially enjoyed this and have been sitting here thinking about what it is that makes someone appear as an “old soul”—–just what is the common denominator? I have decided it is one who is ego defenseless.
Again, thanks so much for all the interesting and thoughtful posts—-love it all.
I've been an “old soul” ever since I can remember, which is a long time. When I was a kid I was always fascinated with the old ways and the old timers. I would take hanging out with an old timer over a kid any day. As a child I was contemplating the Universe and our place in it, while my friends were contemplating sports. And when I was a kid, there were plenty of old timers who were born in the 1800's. I loved the world that they grew up in.
Pisces are usually called old souls, and I think I was born old in someways. I have numerous friends my sons's ages adn I know they are old souls. Not necessarily the same thing, but one young man I feel may have been my grandfather, who died when I was two.
That may not make him an old soul, but i think he IS an old soul.
What's a soul? Snake eyes question has me wondering about all these words we use…
Hey Moon…thanks for coming by dear one…I like the term ego defenselessness. Sounds like a winner…esp after what Ghabi said in his post, not that he has the be all, end all answer, LOL!
Bewick, my man…me too…I grew up to 40's music and wondering who I was in my past life, I knew at 5 this was not all there was! And yes, I contemplated other things other than my childhood friends and I am still the eclectic one…haha…and I love the old stories and I resonate with novels written by naturalist writers between 1880 and 1920 or so…and always had an affinity for the Titanic, before all the Cameron hoopla …
Carla: here was a definition of souls.
The soul according to many religious and philosophical traditions, is the ethereal substance - spirit (Hebrew:rooah or nefesh) - particular to a unique living being. Such traditions often consider the soul both immortal and innately aware of its immortal nature, as well as the true basis for sentience in each living being.
Yup, we use lot of definitions, as snake did and it gets us to wondering about from whence they were originated. Aristotle and Plato talked about soul and Emerson talked about the over-soul. Anam Cara means soul friend in Celtic.
My feeling is our soul is us, and the body our vehicle. Old souls are said to have lived many lifetimes, some as far back as Atlantis and Lemuria, if you believe in those anceint civilizations. Most say the soul leaves the body upon death and enters another body on reincarnation. Old souls seem to be wise ones who already “know”, but others many feel we all already know and are just remembering….
Of course, this is a loosely defined definition subject to revision and interpretation for those of you who may disagree or feel I have missed some important thing…
I like to think our souls are who we really are, no masks, nothing artificial, our real selves…
Old souls seem wise, even if they are younger, like little Mattie Stephanek who was a poet and wrote books, and was wise beyond his years…
But you are right Carla, we use words and do not really discuss the words we use all the time…and so this might be like the Socrates Cafe…in our blogs, where we define and discuss the words and come to a more balanced way of using them and ascertaining their meaning!
:) peace and love,
Aley
Hi Aley,
very interesting there. When I used the term, I was refering to quite a big picture. I do believe in rebirth (rebirth being different from reincarnation). An old soul seems to be one that has become wiser, more open and tolerant in many many lifetimes. Old souls seem to have a much broader and wider understanding about the connections. I thought about the term Indigo as well. I'm sure you're familiar with the Indigo Child concept. People who believe in this concept, tell me that I'm definitely Indigo.
When we talk about old souls, we might as well talk about soulmateship too. Have we been close friends in a past lifetime, and the connection lead us to meet again, which results in what you call “resonating with each other”? I've had many of those moments in this life. Now…when you consider that your soul has gone through many lifetimes, of course it is very likely that you have an abundance of “soulmates”, who are in fact very close friends from past lifetimes. This would make you feel very connected with mankind as a whole. So you become philanthropic and humanitarian. So I'm not suprised if old souls connect more, feel they want to make the world a better place….it makes sense.
Just as a side note: I define rebirth as “a mind or soul being reborn with imprints of a past life, such as karma and memories linked with this karma. I define reincarnation as “a mind or soul being reborn with almost the same character or personality (read Ego) that it had in its previous life”.
Another side note: Spirit, spirituality and inspiring are all linked with the term soul. The root term in Latin is “breath” but also “soul”. Fascinating connection, seeing the soul as what breathes inside of us. And when we are inspired, fresh air, a breath has entered us, blowing the dust away, and at the same time a sense of soul.
Best wishes
I had written quite a long comment and went to post and –poof!– it was gone!!! Sooo, here is an abridged version!!!!
As a old Pisces (probably indigo) soul, who remembers thinking “this is all a dream” when I was 3 years old, I hear you! I feel so blessed to have finally found a place, here at zaadz, where people “get it”. I have spent the vast majority of my 33 years surrounded by people who think I am just plain strange for being more interested in learning about philosophy and spirituality than going to the mall or a hockey game!! EEKKS!
My 2 older kids are definitely old souls, too. They seem drawn to older people and can “self-regulate” fairly well. They don't need to be disciplined like other kids I know. Rather, I feel most times that I am here to help them “remember” how to be here on earth. They don't need to be taught!!
Thanks so much for exploring this most interesting topic, Aley!
Much love and light to you,
S:)
When I say that I was an old soul, I mean it in the way that I have always been attracted to older folks, and older things, times, etc. I had a real feeling for these old ways. I never felt as though I was reborn, or from another time, or that I was an “indigo child.” I just had a strong affinity to another age. I suppose someone could think that they had perhaps lived in another time. But, I don't believe any of that. I feel it in a very earthbound way.
WOW! Ab-soul-utely wonderful, pardon the pun, it just seemed to fit!
Chrysalis: I really like your input here very much…and I also like the inspire,fresh air etc…breath of fresh air definition…and that is why I find this place so inspiring, it is like a breath of fresh air to my soul. I feel as though befre incarnation we all made an agreement to meet here as souls who had lived past lives together. After all, we are all over the planet and how would we meet otherwise? Some great comments here, thanks!
Shannon:
I am sorry you had the poof thing happen, that happens to me on my laptop al the time as I accidentially hit the enter button and poof away goes paragraphs of words…:(
I can see how many people in your age bracket just don't get where you are cuz they are not focused on other worlds or spirit/philosophy…I had that in my 30's and there was not zaadz! EEEKKK..it was horrible, no one at all to talk to! My son was like your kids, in fact he used to get exasperated with his sister when he was 3 or 4 and she was 10 or 11 and he would say: why don't you just listen to mom and she won't have to get mad? This made her mad! She was an Indigo, he was an old soul…for some reason, the indigo description of add and some other things I read, like not wanting to be told anything etc, are not what he was, but what she was! So I sense a difference in my case between indigo and old soul…
Bewick dear…your description of old soul is very apropos to me…and I always felt like I did not belong in my generation and resonated more with those before me. Petrarch, a 13th century essayist said the same thing, he felt more in tune with life in previous generations than his own…and I like your description, in a very earthbound way..close ties to the past…we all come from different prespectives and this makes us all unique and at the same time much the same in some ways!
Marvelous morning read!
Thanks to all of you…grand souls!
Blessings,
Aley
To me there are a lot of things that define or make an old soul, but I will share with you guys my side of it all. I'll start my story with my thought on the growth of a soul. I believe that we are all one part of the whole that is the Divine. So imagine it as a puzzle if you will, each puzzle representing a different perspective of the whole. When the puzzle is in individual pieces it appears to be separate, just as we appear to be separate from the Divine. As we go through our lives and we connect with those around us, the other pieces of the puzzle, we begin to slowly reconnect with the other parts of our self. In doing this we grow from being one small piece of the puzzle, to one big corner made up of many pieces of the whole. Now this could take many lives to reconnect to just one extra piece of our self, because we spend many lives feeling separate, and not trying to reconnect with the I AM's around us.
So most souls have gone through many lives, and began to grow in their conscious size. It is this that most people notice, especially those that are energy sensitive or psychic, because I can tell that there is a concentration of more energy with that persons physical body. A lot of people in this world believe this makes that person better than them, but that is one of the hardest things for an old soul to get across to people. WE ARE NO BETTER THAN YOU! J For you are me, and I am you! So how can I be greater than myself? For example, take two comma victims; one comes out of their deep sleep in 2004 and the other in 2007. They both take a long time to regain their memory, but because the first victim has been awake longer, he remember much more about the world that the other. This does not make him any more powerful than the other; just that he has been awake awhile longer to himself.
One of the many challenges of an old soul is to be able to integrate all the lessons from their past lives, for we are not all born of the world with the memory of the past. We have to open ourselves to all the parts that make up our soul and in doing so we begin to remember more and more. I, myself, have many memories of past lives, and many of those lives are as real to me as this one. I also have memories of dimensions with higher vibrations. I know that all these lives and memories that I have, are merely different aspect of the whole. So I don't believe that it's time that makes one an old soul, how many lives you've had, but it's integration, how much of our I AM that we have remembered.
Well stated Ricky and most enlightening…!
Yes, if there is one thing I do not like it is tiers of “knowing”…and I am better than, higher than, more powerful than, whatever the case may be. We are all one, and if we are all one, the source reamins available to all of us.
I used to remember things, but as I have “integrated” I remember less and less, even about this life. In this life, I have lived many lives. That sounds peculiar, but it is so dead one accurate. I have had multiple partnerships, and jobs and lived in so many places, that one might say I have lived a whole lifetime in each circumstance. All has brought me to where I am today and though painful, I am grateful beyond words. It has made me come to ap lace of non judgment, peace and quiet discernment. I am no better, not smarter, no wiser, no more degreed, no higher on the spiritual ladder than any one else, because all that emanates ego and I work diligently to stay away from ego.It has caused me to lose opportunities, because in interviews I am asked if I like comeptition, and I hate competition, I also am asked to tout all my successes and all my abilities, and show my titles and my outside accomplishments..and it makes me cringe. It is hard for a person to live in a material world that is spiritual and has different ways of looking at the world.
Ah, but I am happy! And I am using what I can to infuse love and light into the world…as you all are doing here as well…
love and thanks Ricky for your input!
Aley
“I used to remember things, but as I have “integrated” I remember less and less, even about this life.”
I completely understand what your saying. I do the same thing, as I have integrated something, it no longer hold pressence in my life. A lot of my friends have picked on me, saying I was weird, because I can barely remember anything past 7 years ago. My childhood is completely blank, the only thing I really remember is stories that I have been told by family memebers. But to be able to close my eyes and remember the feel of something, just doesn't happen for me. So many people try to make such a big deal about this, but it's never really bothered me.
Old soul?
…look for the one who is like a wise child.
I know its not about old souls, I'm looking for some feedback on these ideas though and I saw the first line and find it a little bit syrcronistic to post here.
Halt! Who goes there? Lets stop, and all listen to one another. To make it where we will and still stay together and connected as a family, Here is what I propose. We take a deep breath. All of us. Go over the remenents of old walks of life and experiment to see which one is more progressive. We will form self contained communities and let them flourish the only way that a community could flourish without having history repeat itself. Here is how.
Life, in the sense of that which our souls have come to incarnate, holds a screen on to which our personality is projected. The screen is made of a substance that displays a wide-range of possibitiies. The scope of the range gives us the freedom to make choices.
A person's character is dependent on attitude, actions, and beliefs. The ability of someone to perform tasks within one frame of the motion picture of their lives played by the VCR of their sanity, or lack there-of, is or should be judged on their frame of mind. A society full of people with identical neural circuitry would all think and behave in the similar fashion out of a pattern of ingrained thoughts.
Devices already in place brainwashing our children some number of days out of the year, you might know it as the educational system, can be taken to another level and used to create a legacy of cooperation. Born is the possiblity to actually live for a purpose from the outcome of using the establishments formed by our predecessors to leave the next generations with better hope for their lives. A uniform curiculum to start a potential for a community of beings who when called to action can come together to achieve a goal with minimal delays in communication, arguments caused by conflicting learning structures, and assignment of priority procedures to individuals without the experience neccessary to carry out the order as commanded.
To my third eye it looks like the society would be comprised of a central government which allows for self-expression so long as it does not portray criminal behavior. It doesn't seem so much like the control of the path we choose to follow as it does the placement of specialists in areas where it would serve the plan/challenge and possible competition for who gets what rewards by the use of their judgement and expertise.
Huh? (a tiny voice from Planet Earth)
…old soul…sometimes defineing is such a cerebral act…I have more luck *feelng* a person…we All are one age or another…is an old soul more valuable than a young soul?…
Earth can be described as a one room country school house with everyone from pre-school to post -graduate work…we get thrown with who we can teach and who can teach us…Bless Us All …
Antonio … I know why I didn't quite get your comment. You said the same thing, word for word, on your blog post of July 12, answering the question: How Are You Going To Change The World Today? That's why I didn't get it! It's got nothing to do with old souls. ;)
If an old soul is one who has had much experience over many lifetimes, perhaps old souls are just slow learners!!! ;-)
Ol' King Cole, was a Merry Old Soul….
Yeah buddy!
This is one of those topics I just haven't given much thought to. I guess for me… (and we all know how rebellious I am), I don't care who is an old soul, Indigo, rebirthed from the 1st century, or an alien sending email. (Although the alien sending email might be kinda entertaining, moreso than Paris Hilton, by far.)
What I care about, is that people respect people regardless. Meaning…. age doesn't make one wise, nor smart.
I had a crazy Grandmother who used to crochet everything together she could get her hands on to make the oddest things…. and she always said to me while crocheting, “I'm WISER than you, so you HAVE to listen to me,” with crazy stuff hanging out of her mouth. Once she even crocheted old sneaker laces from a garage sale!
And my response was always, “Wise according to whose standards?”
Isn't this kind of the same thing? Who developed these standards and why do we implement them?
If I spend my life 'wising' myself up so I can die wise and come back more wise….. well, where is the fun in that? I don't want to come back with spectacles on the end of my nose!
I rebel!
;-) <Wink-Wink>
Age doesn't always make anyone the wiser. An ignorant young person will most likely grow up to be an ignorant old person. A wise young person will most likely grow to be a wise old person. It's not age, but outlook.
Exactly! (I was being a smart alleck above.)
So don't forget the humor! ;-)
LOL!
I can see this blog has been well moderated today while I was off in Rhode Island visiting an old friend from Reno, who was in town for a conference!
WOW…I need to catch up and will certainly comment…thanks do much y'all…or youse guys…LOL
Aley
I’ve come to realize that I’m a child pretending to be a grownup, and not exactly doing a bangup job of the pretense. Do you think that indicates an old soul or a young one?
Well, I had an old heart at 8. I stopped maturing mentally at 13. So, I reckon that makes me and old kid. ;)
Seems like 13 is about where I stopped maturing mentally, too. So what happened to us about that time? It's a mystery. Lets's see, what was I thinking about all day long and all night long about that time? hmmm…. .
Dangerous and forbidden things—things your momma wouldn't appreciate.
What a great topic and intercourse (intercourse in the verbal/written give & take way before anyone says - What?).
I guess I always felt and since have been told I'm an old soul. The various definitions above seem to fit. I like Wills take on it. Now when's recess?
Thanks for opening the door to this Aley.
Blessings, David
I'm sorry to jump in here so late. Some people have a spiritual understanding and depth we notice right away. Where does it come from? Is it past life experience? Is it a part of the brain which is more developed, as in an ABILITY we have?
I've often wondered . . . Still can't answer those questions . . .
P and L . . .
Where to start? Where to start? Phew this is great, we got Old King Cole, and that IS and old soul T/A !!! And you bring up a very valid point…does that mean we don't learn the first time and have to keep coming back?
Janie: your post too was thought provoking; look for someone who is like a wise child…meaning we retain our innocence and not be arrogant?
Antonio: I know you were not commenting on old souls, but are looking for feedback, so Iwill go to your blog post of 7/12 and see what I can interject there! Thanks for coming by!
Will! lt looks like you had a great description, one in which David liked, and I agree, very apropos and I agree that feeling/intuiting is something we might look to do more often. Thinking is something we all might do less of, but I do like the “intercourse” as David stated with others to see differing perspectives…and no I do not believe it is a claim to value whether we are old or young souls, we just are souls on a journey together hoping to grow…
Wen: I agree, it is not really important to distinguish souls as heirarchal levels, but it sure is fun to chat…and we have some greaat chatting here, and humor as well, love a party where all are involved! And wise according to whose standards…owlish ones? LOL
Thanks, love you smart alecky comments,,,ROFL…with the truth obviously contained therein as well…:)
After all, you come from a hollow tree…by cracky!
David: you know what? I just love your humor…and you fit right in with the likes of Bewick and Donny, who bring me smiles all the time….are you also 8 or 13and childlike, like those two rascally rapscallions?
I would offer recess, but since this is on a roll, how about milk and cookies indoors instead…Wendy knows the keebler elves!
Donny and Bewick: I must insist you stay after school today…13 year old boys are always a teachers favorite! Old kids are also accepted for as Janie said, they are wise..or maybe you two are wise-ass…oops, did I say that?
Snake!
You can slither in anytime you want…your blog has been keeping you busy, and that is great news!
Why DO some others have spiritual understandingand depth at younger ages, is it heredity? Past live memory, brain development? Perhaps this is the ultimate question…
And it has nothing to do with an eleitiest position…this is what I was refering to in my original question…why are some people old souls, why are some younger people seemingly say 12 going on 40?? you've all heard/said that before…and this is the crux of the question….
A most excellent, enjoyable, funny and insightful conversation…see, when was the last time you had a genuine conversation? I have them all the time….and so do you all….
Bowing in gratitude to you all for your comments and community spirit!!
Namaste,
Aley
I think that it really comes down to a particular young person's immediate perceptions of the surrounding world. His/her inborn personality making sense of its surroundings, and of course what those surroundings are. How one sees the world from a very young age. What makes one see things somewhat differently than others? I think natural born personality and and how one assembles and processes all the outside stimuli. Why? Another one of life's mysteries. To me, everything just is, so I have trouble being overly analytical. “I yam what I yam,” as Popeye would say.
~Hugs~
This was fascinating until our Moderator took a day off…lol…
Old Souls? Hmmm…I think some just remember more of our Connection as One. People who speak Universal Truths…People Who Can Say What We All Feel…
Younghawk made a faaaabulous post! We are all part of this One Jigsaw Puzzle…
LOL…I had a 3D Jigsaw Puzzle once…I made a Victorian House…It was beautiful!…So some pieces went to the roof…some the floor…some doors…but put it together and WOW! Magnificent Masterpiece all the pieces are a part of…Some of us ARE corner pieces…but no piece “better” than another…each being unique…and having its own special place…it's own unique position…Some pieces we aren't even sure where the heck they belong until the very end!
;-)
Bewick/Popeye: Thanks for your insight, and analytical skills usage! I do think we underestimate our abillity to perceive from our perceptions at times…case in point,,,I am teaching a lit and film class and asked the students to concentrate on all the extraneous things in a film we really do not concentrate on whenn we watch….things placed there to help us understand nonverbally what is being “projected”…it is amazing theinsights…so sometimes digging deeper,even though it is tedious…helps us be more aware..to what we see already there anyway but do not recognize….
Ariela!
The puzzle metaphor is excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I agree with the last line especially! We may not know where we fit until the end…chills….
Thanks….it sucks to take a day off and try to catch up LOL
love to all,
Aley
Oh wow, it might be tricky to jump in now but I will have a go!
I believe in old souls! I believe that “old souls” can be in very young bodies, in fact I think “chronological age” discussions will soon become a thing of the past.
Here is where I get caught up. I know/believe I am an old soul (another Pisces here) and am extraordinarily tolerant and open in my life, trying to learn from all experiences and kind of be a mellow frequency holder.
What catches me is the question: what is my, what I call “good neighbour” responsibility to other people, the rest of the world, social action and social change. I feel that for me I can “be” a old soul but I also feel I “should/want to/need to ethically contribute” in some way to changing the world. So, sometimes I engage in activities etc where my “being” doesn't flow gracefully. It is a quandary (did I spell that correctly) to me.
Z
spelled correctly!
Oh to be 13 again!!! Wouldn't want to go through that again. I know what all you guys were thinking about back then … and yes, my Mum would NOT have approved …
Donny, I've always said I don't ever want to grow up … I want to remain a child. So we share this. Wanna play catch later on? When the teacher lets us out for recess, after milk and cookies?
This post is about souls … and when we talk about souls we're also taking about consciousness. We know that, for example, the consciousness of deer are connected, really all animals. Researchers at Princeton in the US have determined not only that we are all connected … but that we, like the animals and those who are psychic, sensitive, etc., “know” before something happens … we all do. They've hooked up a vast network all over the planet and now have a Global Consciousness Meter. You can check out Resurrected1's profile page where she's successfully posted the meter (toward the bottom).
Young or old … we are all connected … literally!!!!!
I thought I heard a familiar buzz in the air.
Easter dawn and samhain fire,
salty wave and sweet desire,
each to all and all to know,
blessed come and blessed go.
Let's eat,
John
Yeah buddy! Amen and pass the tators.
Zoey:
Your comment:
extraordinarily tolerant and open in my life, trying to learn from all experiences and kind of be a mellow frequency holder.
I find this fits my feeling too…I want to squeeze out every bit of juice from the lemons!
Keith:
What you have posted is really quite interesting and shows us that before something happens in the external world, our spirit and heart already knows it will…check it out…it is fascinating! And shows the power of intention…
I still do not know what I want to BE when I grow up…if I grow up! LOL
John:
Amen and love brother bear…always nice to get your blessing and see your smilin face..
Bewick Cory!
You make a damn good hall moderator…tell me if anyone is talking while I leave the room! LOL Thanks for bringing me smiles all the time!!
:)
Okay … she's left the room … time to make the spitballs …
spirit and heart already knows it will
I completely agree! Growing up as a very sensitive empath, I use to love going to the movie theater. I could tell everything something big was going to happen in the movies, because everyones energies would give it away. I always thought it was really funny, everyones emotions would already start to lean toward being startled before the scarry event would even happen. You can really feel in it scary movies. When you have that much energy and emotions moving in the same direction all at once, wow, it was a rush.
Cool Ricky!!!!! But then again, can you turn it off when you don't want to experience those feelings?
So it seems, an old soul is just called old because the body is physically young which is a contradiction between how the person acts and how the person should be. Hey, I have been teaching myself how to read when I was 4 and a half years old. And when I could read, when I was 5, I read encyclopedias for fun. How is that for a start.
I think the term old souls is wrong then, and we might call it sensitive or aware souls. Resurrected1 said it to the point: “Old Souls? Hmmm…I think some just remember more of our Connection as One. People who speak Universal Truths…People Who Can Say What We All Feel…”
It is more than sheer spiritual or humanitarian awareness at a young age. It is what we do with it, and how much the whole human race can relate to what we feel and think and say. I think this is a really precious gift. It does not mean we are better than anyone else, but we have a higher potential and ability to unite and make the world a better place. I find this thought quite touching and it brings a tear to my eye.
Best wishes
Yes Keith, I can turn it off when I want to, but it took me many years of practice in shielding, energy manipulation, and meditation. Once you're able to understand what your feelings are and what others are, then it's not that hard to keep anything you don't want out. Most people think emotion is emotion, that there is no difference if I feel sadness or if someone near me is feeling sadness. But this is not true; I carry a certain vibration signature within my being, as does everyone else. If you pay attention to that vibration signature, then you can discern between yours and others.
Chrysalis, this does appear more appropriate … “Aware Souls”. We could go on and on and on about the term “Aware” … couldn't we?
Which leads to Ricky's comment about the “awareness” between feeling one's own vibration and the vibration of others.
What are some of the clues we should look for YoungHawk, for those of us who are yet to be “aware” of this ability? How can I tell the difference between my own vibration and the vibration of others?
Did you visit the Global Consciousness site? This is actually what they discovered … very scientifically …
I would have to give this some thought, because it has become second nature to me. But I could suggest taking someone you are real close to, someone whose energy you know pretty well already. Sit there and calm your emotions to where you are not radiating any emotion, and then have them think of really high emotional events in their life. This can be hard on that person unless they have control over their emotions, to the point where they won't let their emotions take control of them, or they could be sad or something for quite a bit. While they are doing this start off by feeling the emotion, but don't let your body resonate that emotion to match what it feels. Then focus on the energy of that emotion until you can feel that persons identifying vibration. Think about someone writing a letter, and the cops analyzing the writing of that letter, each person has special way of writing that defines that letter as theirs. That's what you are looking for in the emotion.
Oh!
Then I suppose I do this already and didn't know it. There's that “aware” thing again. I do this automatically.
Wait! Doesn't everyone do this?
Some wonderful comments and insights once again here…Keith …go sit in the corner for tossing spitballs…
Chrysalis:
LOL..you read encyclopedias too?? Keith did this when he was growing up and I had a set too…!!!
I love what you have posted about being an aware soul…and agree…and also when you stated: how much the whole human race can relate to what we feel and think and say. I think this is a really precious gift. It does not mean we are better than anyone else, but we have a higher potential and ability to unite and make the world a better place. I find this thought quite touching and it brings a tear to my eye.
This is quite beautful and I just love that you shared it with us. We ALL have the potential to be aware, but we may think it is a special gift, when we can access it if we become aware.
Ricky!
Thanks for sharing dear one. I know this to be true and can sense it sometimes even without seeing someone, but simply tuning into their vibration in their writing or words…
Great insights….and moving this blog forward too…
Thanks!
Love Aley
LOL…I commented before but the computer ate it, LOL…
I wrote that it was funny that Chrysalis quoted me because I quoted him too…I also taught myself to read using encyclopedias at age 3!!! The dictionary too, lol…
This is great discussion! And especially since there are so many Wise ones here at Zaadz, changing the world ;-)
Our scientists and medical professionals know that our “perception” of light and sound is normally within a very narrow range. X-ray and infrared, to name only two known classes of “light” fall outside our range of “awareness”. If we were able to perceive radio wave sound … our lives would be totally chaotic … as our world is saturated with these signals. Television, cell phones, our garage door openers … and much, much more … are all sound …
In a way, having the ability to perceive within such a narrow band is a blessing of sorts. It allows us to function with minimal distraction. Otherwise, it would be akin to being in a very crowded place with everyone yelling and screaming and jostling around 24/7.
The point I want to bring up here … is that it appears those who are “sensitive” are able to routinely perceive in a range much more expanded than what has previously been defined as normal.
My feeling is that the souls incarnating today … more and more and more are coming in hardwired, if you will, with this “extra-sensory” perception. Ariela and YoungHawk are two examples. Perhaps you as well, Chrysalis. This could easily explain the near epidemic incidences of AD/HD, ADD, and the rest. It's like YoungHawk said … he had to “learn” how to control his perceptions … because the signals “coming in” can overload the brain's ability to interpret them. There's just too much information available with awareness across a broader spectrum.
So, as YoungHawk had to learn to control this, and am sure Ariela can mirror this as well, all our young people have or will have this issue. And what do we do? We scream at them … tell them over and over and over again how “bad” they are … and we medicate them.
In the past whenever someone came along with a message the masses or the “powers that be” didn't like … we killed them. These souls, too, were able to perceive outside what would be considered normal. Over time they became known as “prophets” and we now venerate them, while we gradually absorb their teachings.
What do we do with several millions of such souls who incarnate at the same time?
I must admit I have seen some rather extraordinary examples of people with “vision” and it is most heartening..
and Ariela…you guys may be quoting each other, but actually, you are all sayingmuch of the same thing and it is interesting to note that you are all affirming it here as if to assimilate your own feelings and also have found a similar soul connection!
Well, well what shall we do with these several million souls who are all connected or hardwired at the same time? Seems rather powerful!
I have seen the ADD/ADHD “phenomenon” accelerate over the last 20 years or more. Maybe, just maybe we always had this, and it was not named….then I read someplace that watching too much TV before 2-3 years old ruins the synapses in the brain and creates this disconnection. Or too much processed food, etc. The truth is, that whatever it is, it is happening at a higher rate…spiritually, old souls incarnating are bored with school perhaps, as they are relearning stuff they had learned in many llifetimes prior? Not sure, but interesting…
What if…what if you had to sit in elementary school for years and years relearning stuff you already knew over and over, wouldn't that be tediously boring and wouldn't you be restless and agitated?
Maybe the encyclopedias help you catch up instead on information you really want to know…LOL
All speculation, but kind of fun to do, in a weird sort of way, eh?
Most fascinating….
Have an “aware “day…for “nice” seems so trite….
:)
There are many theories from “Old Souls” to “Indigo” to “12 strand DNA activation”…who knows…maybe it's a combination ;-)
Yes, I too went through an overload as a young girl…too much information from everywhere and everything and everyone…took a loooong time to separate what was actually “my stuff”and basically I had to turn much of the sensitivity “off”…
Perhaps there are greater numbers now, because as Keith says, in the past these people were killed…Perhaps we did this so the Messages would get through because we can't all possibly be eradicated….And because we unite and become a force of our own. We are survivors and we Live To Tell.
And OH, Amma…LOL…what you said about school…this is a recurring dream since I was born! I am always in a school, trying to find my way out, or in a classroom and everyone is choosing a certain number of challenges to go thru here…and I say, “Bah! Piece of cake! Give me all of it…everything!!!”… LOL!! ;-)
Perhaps the encyclopedias and books and information give us a feeling of familiarity as we roamed the halls of the Akashic Records Library ;-)
I posted something in my blog that goes along with this topic. It was sent to me by email from a friend, but because of it's length I decided to post it as a blog entry instead of taking up a lot of space here. Enlightened thinker asked me to link my blog post to here so I am, plus I thik a lot of you will resonate with what it says.
Entry “Three Hallmarks of Spiritual Maturity”
Excellent post, YoungHawk!!!!! Just excellent.
Several years ago a horror movie was produced portraying several children who looked alike, acted alike, and essentially worked together as one. The title completely escapes me, I'm sorry to say. This was a fear-based representation, of course, which would be akin to Fundamentalists' conception of New Energy and the attributes of souls incarnating the last few decades. Some Holders of the Light are chronologically older … but generally speaking we're taking about those under 30 years of age having these characteristics.
Discounting or ignoring the fear surrounding this movie, I see a lot of real-life similarities. You guys come in with a “knowing” that older folks find odd. The level of cooperation between those with this energy/vibration/awareness is astounding, as Aley pointed out.
The children in this Hollywood version, by the way … were all killed … except for one … the only one of the group that displayed compassion.
Some may not approve of the use of this word, but I feel it's very appropriate. I feel you have been persecuted. Why should people have nightmares about school, Ariela? This obviously was a traumatic experience for you … and I am very sorry you had to endure such torment.
Perhaps all is as it should be. The persecution will only serve to make you stronger. When you guys reach the age where you will be “in charge” … I see tremendous hope.
We just have to get all the old farts out of the way …
Yes, YoungHaw's post was wonderful ;-)
Hey we are not Children of The Corn, LOL!!! Hmm..maybe we are, just the other way around…we DO have Compassion…and I definitely think there's something to a certain Resonance, Frequency, Vibration…same thing…That we feel a connection and comaraderie with…I was very surprised to see how chronologically young Chrysalis is…even I find a refreshing Wisdom to his words ;-)
No, no, Appa…I have been persecuted but not in school, LOL…those dreams were not nightmares…there is a good feeling when I have them…I'm not trying to escape from persecution, I'm trying to go roam about on my own, explore, discover more…what's outside this class? What's outside the school? LOL…
The last time I had this dream, it was FireTheGrid eve…I ended up in a hall with an open door at the end but no other way to go, it seemed…then a woman started walking toward the room too and I chatted with her and she said that was her classroom ahead…I asked how do I exit the school…By this time we were in front of her door and she pointed to the right…DUH…there was double glass doors leading to the Glorious Sunny Grassy Blue-Skied world outside…I looked at her, Thanked Her, and she said she gets the question all the time…I asked why she didn't just put up a Sign that said Exit and pointed the way out so she wouldn't have to…she says, “Because I enjoy talking to the people who are Lost.”
LOL ;-)
The real persecution comes from literally being born the youngest, but being able to run things waaaay better and efficiently and with LOVE, than the oldest…who is presently running things…wielding a superiority based on chron. age…being given Decision Power that is not deserved, not being used wisely for the benefit of all….Yes, this is a literal situation, but also Mirrors the one out in the World at large…
Thank You Amma for allowing me to affirm and assimilate in your world, LOL ;-)
As an aside, I'm certainly glad to learn there are others on the planet who sit and read the encyclopedia for fun. {{{{PHEW}}}} I thought I was weird or something …
: )
Okay, Ariela, I re-read your post and you don't mention this as being negative, so this was a misperception on my part. So sorry. But I still feel there's persecution … a lack of accommodation for souls like you. You are forced to “conform” to a system that doesn't work for you. That's tough.
Actually, Ariela … and YoungHawk … and Chrysalis … you may get the opportunity to lead much sooner than you think. Much sooner. As the old energy structures begin to break apart, as they must, which will come of their own weight and ineptitude, a void will be formed that will have to be filled. I hope the transformation will be relatively non-traumatic … but my feeling is there will be some major disruption.
We will all need your awareness …
The energizer bunny blog….and so much sharing.. I love it..thanks to all…and for assimilatating and posting and linking things for everyone….
You all are such teachers!
Wunderbar!
Love, Aley
Haha, Aley, the comments just never stop coming in, right? I like that.
(((smiles)))
Isn't it great! It is hard to tell what might bring people to a party…I might need to go get more things to graze on….perhaps some chip and dip, pink lemonade and guacamole?
Bewick … I've never known you to be at a loss for words. Moonstar, Carla, EarthMama, BlueWater, Will, Antonio, Donny … come on now!!!!!
What do you guys feel?
Okay … recess is over … time to get back to work …
I've already said my piece (a few times). :) Indigo children, past lives, supreme intelligence … I always thought of it as having an affinity to old ways and thinking. As I've said before, to me, everything just is. I have never in my life analyzed a book, a lyric, a song, a story, a movie, or a person … it hits me on an emotional level or it doesn't. It has to connect to me. I'm an emotional feeler, not a critical thinker. I think it is the critical thinkers who analyze the emotional feelers. And there ain't nothing wrong with that. We all have our place. We all have our purpose.